On December 6, 2022, author and translator Dr. Mostafa al-Badawi, photographer Peter Sanders, and author Michael Sugich met at Dr. al-Badawi’s home in Heliopolis in Cairo, Egypt for a rare, informal filmed conversation on the contemporary sages of Islam. All three men were students of the great 20th-century Ba ‘Alawi sage Habib Ahmad Mashhur al-Haddad and all three have devoted themselves to sharing what they have learned from him and from other masters of the way they have met. Dr. al-Badawi is the author of the concise biography of al-Haddad in Exemplars for Our Time. Peter Sanders and Michael Sugich are the Exemplars series editors.